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Discussion in 'Off Topic Chat' started by Jeff, Nov 26, 2015.
Obama: ‘This is not normal. We can’t let it become normal.’
Oh, there are SO MANY things to say about this and so many of those things have already been said. Government Control is Government Control is Government Control. It still amazes me how many people in the world do not learn from history.
California's strict gun laws failed to stop mass shooting
excerpt from link above: "He noted that California, Colorado and Oregon — sites of the three most recent shootings — already have such laws in place.
"We're being told that even though these laws didn't stop these attacks in these states, somehow they would work in the rest of the country," he said. "I know the claim is, 'we don't expect it to do everything but it will do some.' Maybe they could point to one case where these laws would make a difference."'
I agree. Guns are not the problem;l they are a mere tool. A tool that does make it easier for the bad guys, but easier for the good guys to defend themselves too.
NRA, SECOND AMENDMENT AND "WE THE PEOPLE"
It's a long, but very good read if you are interested or a proponent of the 2nd Amendment
excerpt from link above: The real constitutional argument against contemporary “gun control” lies in the first thirteen words of the Second Amendment. Namely, that every American eligible for the Militia—which includes every able-bodied adult man and woman (other than conscientious objectors)—has a right, and more importantly a duty, to possess whatever firearms can serve any purpose in the Militia, under any circumstances in which the Militia might be called forth. Constitutional “gun control” requires the possession of firearms of every description by every American eligible for the Militia. (Not that every American would necessarily possess every type of firearm; but that no American would be denied a right to possess any type of firearm.) Every self-styled advocate of the Second Amendment who denies this, or who simply evades the matter entirely, turns other Americans away from the constitutional solution to “gun control”, and thereby actually aid and abets the proponents of “gun control”. It may be that these people are motivated by good, if misguided, intentions. But the road to Hell is paved with good intentions, all of them misguided. And this country is too far down that road already to tolerate further misdirection.
I look at myself as a gun nut and I gotta say that those pictures are the bomb. On the other hand, gun control won't help a bit, but stir up the black market and leave us vulnerable, as we the people.
Yeah. How many "gun-free zones" have made people easy targets? Force must be met with force.
@Arkel Glad to hear that you like the photos. I am always finding quotes and images about Gun Rights online.
@Up In Vape
Personally, and I emphasize PERSONALLY, I also believe that too much gun control will 'stir up the black market', but at that point, it will be too late and other issues will take the fore front; Civil Unrest, self-proclaimed militia's and vigilantes, state and federal agencies (including military) moving in to 'quell the uprising' and enforcement of 'police states'. Police states have historically led to governments killing off or incarcerating it's own people. Such as America's turn on it's own citizens during WW !!
There is also the example of the Native Americans being slaughtered/disarmed. How can people trust a government that does not respect and trust them?
]Federal Authorities disarm Native Americans for their own protection
excerpt from link above: "Before any American citizen blindly accepts whatever new firearms legislation that is about to be doled out, they should stop and think about something for just one minute-
Evil does exist in our world. It always has and always will. Throughout history evil people have committed evil acts. In the Bible one of the first stories is that of Cain killing Abel. We can not legislate “evil” into extinction. Good people will abide by the law, and the criminal element will always find a way around it."
Gun Free Zones have made for easy targets, but you also need to look at the who/why/when/where/how/what. It is not a 30-40 year old going into Gun Free School Zones. It is students of that very school. Sounds more to me like a society problem instead of a gun control problem.
Yes, the parents/adults should have secured there weapons correctly. Yes, they should have monitored their children more closely. If you seriously thing about this, children have been stealing cigarettes from their parents since the earliest times that placed age restrictions on who could smoke. So what makes children getting ahold of their parents gun any different? Regardless of motivation or location, ff there is 'a will' there is 'a way' and people have been getting their hands on whatever they have wanted. Regulation, Restriction and Confiscation are not necessarily the right answer.